Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 02/12] bpf: Introduce BPF standard streams

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On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 6:34 AM Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 02:15:09PM +0200, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 at 14:01, Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 08:12:42PM -0700, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> > > > Add support for a stream API to the kernel and expose related kfuncs to
> > > > BPF programs. Two streams are exposed, BPF_STDOUT and BPF_STDERR. These
> > > > can be used for printing messages that can be consumed from user space,
> > > > thus it's similar in spirit to existing trace_pipe interface.
> > > >
> > > > The kernel will use the BPF_STDERR stream to notify the program of any
> > > > errors encountered at runtime. BPF programs themselves may use both
> > > > streams for writing debug messages. BPF library-like code may use
> > > > BPF_STDERR to print warnings or errors on misuse at runtime.
> > >
> > > just curious, IIUC we can't mix the output of the streams when we dump
> > > them, right? I wonder it'd be handy to be able to get combined output
> > > and see messages from bpf programs sorted out with messages from kernel
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, this is a good point.
> > Right now, no, in the sense that sequentiality is definitely broken
> > across the two streams.
> > We can force print a timestamp for every message and do the sorting
> > from bpftool side, or it can just be piped to sort after dumping both
> > stdout and stderr.
> > Output will look like trace_pipe with some fixed format before the
> > actual message.
> > WDYT? Others are also welcome to chime in.
>
> yes, keeping the kernel simple (just adding timestamp) and sorting
> it in bpftool seems good to me

I don't see the point in all that complication.
If bpf prog wants to separate its printk vs kernel printks
it should use a different stream.
Right now there is only stdout and stderr.
Eventually we will allow for more.





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