Re: Clarifying isolated network rules in nftables

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On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 11:39:38AM +0300, Alexey Kashavkin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I’m trying to understand how firewall filter works for isolated network in libvirt v11.1.0. When I start the network I can see following rules in nftables:
> 
> table ip libvirt_network {
> 	chain forward {
> 		type filter hook forward priority filter; policy accept;
> 		counter packets 0 bytes 0 jump guest_cross
> 		counter packets 0 bytes 0 jump guest_input
> 		counter packets 0 bytes 0 jump guest_output
> 	}
> 
> 	chain guest_output {
> 		iif "virbr3" counter packets 0 bytes 0 reject
> 	}
> 
> 	chain guest_input {
> 		oif "virbr3" counter packets 0 bytes 0 reject
> 	}
> 
> 	chain guest_cross {
> 		iif "virbr3" oif "virbr3" counter packets 0 bytes 0 accept
> 	}
> 
> 	chain guest_nat {
> 		type nat hook postrouting priority srcnat; policy accept;
> 	}
> }
> 
> But when I start ping from one VM to another on the same isolated network, I don't see an increase in counters in either chain.
> 
> In the libvirt code, I found a comment in src/network/network_nftables.c:
> 
> /**
> * nftablesAddForwardAllowCross:
> *
> * Add a rule to @fw to allow traffic to go across @iface (the virtual
> * network's bridge) from one port to another. This allows all traffic
> * between guests on the same virtual network.
> */
> 
> But it seems that these rules don't work and are not needed. If I delete this table or some chains, nothing happens. VMs have connectivity with each other on this network.
> 
> What are these rules for?

This is inherited from our old iptables impl, where this was probably
needed to workaround a default REJECT policy in the table. Quite
possibly redundant in nftables with our use of dedicated tables.

With regards,
Daniel
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