On Sat Apr26'25 10:05:22AM, Doug Herr wrote: > From: Doug Herr <fedoraproject.org@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 10:05:22 -0700 > To: Fedora Users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading? > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 7:53 AM, Marco Moock wrote: > > If you are running an outdated kernel, you should reboot the current one > > to be able to properly remove the old kernel during the upgrade. > > Just to clear this up... > > I think this is not actually correct (maybe part of the issue Ranjan was having). > Right, what you say below was my question. > > The upgrade is done "offline", meaning that it is done early in a reboot. So... > > 1. Run for days or weeks. > 2. Do a regular update which adds a new kernel. > 3. Do your Fedora version update without bothering to reboot. > 4. Last step of that upgrade (before it applies the packages) is a "special" reboot. > > The reboot that is used to get to the "offline" state where it applies the packages will actually use that new kernel that you installed in step 2. So it should then be able to remove your oldest kernel during the process. > > The trouble is that you had not rebooted to verify that that new kernel actually runs on your system. If it does not then you might have a failure during the upgrade reboot. > > Bottom line is back to the simple "best practice" of getting to a fully updated and *reboot* tested state before you do a full version upgrade. > -- Thanks very much for this response and clarification! I decided to reboot before the upgrade just in case. However, since I use an X-server (slim for login and openbox for WM), my upgrade resulted in a broken system (unable to get a login screen or a text console). So I went back to F41 for now in order to first investigate the problem. Best wishes, Ranjan > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
