On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 20:51 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I rooted through all of the gory details, icccm, ewmh, and X11 primitives, > some time ago. It's all there. The fly in the ointment is that the nuts and > the bolts of it are difficult use, cumbersome, and lack some convenient > features. This should've been addressed – and could've been addressed – a > long time ago. And because it wasn't (or, at least, that's one of the > reasons), the whole thing is being dumped into a trash bin. Sad. It's an on-going problem. As things roll on, someone decides it'll be easier to just start again with another project to replace it, rather than fix the problems. Someone will decide there's too many options to support, and drop all the ones that they don't use themselves. Then there'll be arguments about putting them back in, no they're not needed, you can make do with a screen with one window, one icon, and one button, none of which are user-configurable. Then they get put back in, and someone decides the project is too cumbersome, and needs starting over. And you're back to square one. I miss the little things that have gone over the years. It used to be *easy* to customise the logon screen. Want your corporate logo there, just click this button and change the background image. Now you have to hand-edit some XML file, hoping that an update won't undo it. Want to change the colours of your desktop, click this button to change the window title bar of the active window to this, the inactive window to that. Now you just get a choice of premade themes (and no theme editor anywhere to be found, so they must be hand-coding them). Most of which I hate for various reasons, but at the top of the list is being unable to tell out of which window which is the active one! The on-screen keyboard (on the login screen, on the logged in screen). Have you ever had to repair computers? Do you not realise how useful it is to be able do something when there's no spare keyboard, or its faulty? What I don't miss is things like Gnome going to a behemoth that needs an expensive graphics card to carry the load (and they cost more than the motherboard and CPU, together, these days). With an interface that's more aligned with a touchscreen tablet than a desktop PC. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
