Re: Plasma-X11 support in F42

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On Wednesday, 11 June 2025 19:33:33 Central European Summer Time Giuliano 
Colla via kde wrote:
> I was convinced that the main goal of this group was to permit users to
> give a feedback to developers, in order to make KDE on Fedora more
> respondent to user needs.
> 

Partly true but not exactly accurate.

> As the topic at hand is the Plasma-X11 support, I felt that opinions on
> that subject would be not only appropriate, but also useful.

Except that is not what you did. You made absolute statements and even wrote 
things that can be seen as a threat. I quote: "You'd better support X11 
sessions until Wayland is production ready. " Or else what? (ignoring the fact 
that "production ready" is very subjective)

As per your absolute statements:

"Currently users have issues with Wayland sessions, not with X11 sessions!"

That is just not true. There are issues with both sessions and the X11 ones 
are way harder to solve because the Xorg implementation of the protocol is 
essentially in maintenance mode only and has been for several years.

Not to mention that some of the issues are just _not possible_ to solve on X11 
( like fundamental security and no tearing).

If you really want to have a constructive discussion, start a thread talking 
about the pain points you have with the wayland session and we will see what 
we can do about it. You'd be surprise on how many occasions people believe 
something is not possible on Wayland but it really is these days ( I lost 
count of how many times people have mentioned X forwarding just to tell them 
about waypipe).

I encourage you to have constructive criticism and give feedback in a healthy 
way. We can all benefit from that :-)

Best regards,

-- 
Marc Deop i Argemí
System Engineer


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