On Wednesday, 11 June 2025 19:33:33 Central European Summer Time Giuliano Colla via kde wrote: > I was convinced that the main goal of this group was to permit users to > give a feedback to developers, in order to make KDE on Fedora more > respondent to user needs. > Partly true but not exactly accurate. > As the topic at hand is the Plasma-X11 support, I felt that opinions on > that subject would be not only appropriate, but also useful. Except that is not what you did. You made absolute statements and even wrote things that can be seen as a threat. I quote: "You'd better support X11 sessions until Wayland is production ready. " Or else what? (ignoring the fact that "production ready" is very subjective) As per your absolute statements: "Currently users have issues with Wayland sessions, not with X11 sessions!" That is just not true. There are issues with both sessions and the X11 ones are way harder to solve because the Xorg implementation of the protocol is essentially in maintenance mode only and has been for several years. Not to mention that some of the issues are just _not possible_ to solve on X11 ( like fundamental security and no tearing). If you really want to have a constructive discussion, start a thread talking about the pain points you have with the wayland session and we will see what we can do about it. You'd be surprise on how many occasions people believe something is not possible on Wayland but it really is these days ( I lost count of how many times people have mentioned X forwarding just to tell them about waypipe). I encourage you to have constructive criticism and give feedback in a healthy way. We can all benefit from that :-) Best regards, -- Marc Deop i Argemí System Engineer -- _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue